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ross-wallace:

We’re not producing anything… Ms. Summers, either we are the people who the demon inhabits or we are the demon who inhabits what used to be a person. We can’t be both. So, either we’re some kind of subclass of human—which probably just hurts that steel helmet you call a brain—or a demon is in fact being produced when one vampire sires another. Production happens or we would have been wiped away long ago.

We won’t see eye to eye on morality anytime soon. I think we can leave that aside as a lost cause, though I would care to remind you that no two cultures have ever shared perfect aligned definitions. Many similarities, certainly.

And let’s look at our unnaturally long lives and see here. If allowed to live out in the open, we could actually hold down jobs, become part of the work force. Can you imagine night construction getting done? And we wouldn’t need the harsh florescents that the human night crews need in order to see the job done. There goes a few pennies of electricity. The difference isn’t about who can do more wrong to the planet in the fastest time. The difference is trying to provide for a future. One that you seem very keen on keeping ‘evil’ out of when that evil is so narrowly defined by you.

Your rules for your world, and damn everything else seems to be your motto. How long before you start turning on the evil lurking in your own species and raising your hand against them? Or would you tolerate me if I was human, despite my radical difference of morality? Simply because I don’t have a beating heart, that I don’t believe the same as you, I deserve to die?

You destroy something to create yourself. That’s negative growth if you ask me. But if you’ve decided we’re putting away the argument of right and wrong, then I’m deciding that this one is a lost cause as well.

You expect me to believe that vampires just want to be productive members of society? It’s funny that of the thousands of vampires I’ve found myself being attacked by, not one of them mentioned that. The only future they see is themselves tearing into some piping hot human jugular vein.  I’ve had my fare share of witty banter with vampires. They all seemed to have their sights sent on mass destruction of humankind at large, not coexistence. 

I would never purposefully kill a human being. Unlike vampires, their souls provide them with a chance for rehabilitation no matter how far they’ve fallen. And those that can’t be rehabilitated spend their lives in a prison cell where they aren’t a danger to society. I know you’ll try and bring up the possibility of government run demon prisons to hold the dangerous demons, so let me just address that now.

It’s been done before. It’s been done and it failed. I lived through it. Chips that stop them from being physically able to harm people? Hey, they don’t work either. Lived through that as well. Without a soul, vampires cannot be trusted. I will never trust a word you say. It’s a dangerous thing trusting a vampire. I know.

ross-wallace:

ghost-of-fashion-victims-past:

ross-wallace:

Wow, the Slayer has some bite to her.

I won’t rehash some of the same arguments we’ve seen over and over lately about vampires and ‘being good.’ 

But humans are a weaker species, in general. Wouldn’t it do to try and make friends with some of the demonic races? World’s tilting more and more every day. What if demons tried to take the world back again? What hope could you have without more allies?

Dedication to the ‘right’ cause and caring about the ‘innocent’ is a noble gesture. Worthy of praise in the highest degree. I think part of what differs is who we believe is right and innocent.

You aren’t a species. “A species is often defined as a group of organisms capable of interbreeding and producing fertile offspring.” Vampires can’t do that. You’re not meant to rule the earth, you’re meant to burn when the sun comes up. Earth is the home of humans, plants, and animals. There are countless other demensions where demons rule and humans are slaves, this is the demension where humans are supposed to be safe. Maybe humans are weaker than vampires are, but I’m not. I wasn’t given this power for no reason, I’m supposed to defend the greater good. I base my actions off of what I see and experience, and I have experienced vampires. You aren’t good. 

You’ve fought us so long, and you don’t have a simple fact in order?

We do ‘reproduce.’ It’s not the traditional sexual way—though I couldn’t define what we do as asexual either since another person is called into the mix. Maybe one of your Watchers can give you an instruction on how that’s done, Slayer. I can make an offspring, and that offspring would be capable of making more. I’d hardly call us infertile.

And maybe, for a time, this was the way of order. Where the humans declared their dominance over the Earth. But humans stole this planet just as much as you think I’m advocating demons stealing it.

The greater good only consists of what you say it does. And that’s a limited, narrow-minded way. There’s no place for creatures like me in your world because I can’t help that I need to feed on live blood—I don’t care what some of the other vampires will tell you. I’ve tried to feed on animals, even the bottle for a short time. It doesn’t work. 

Your species is already overrunning the planet and chewing up its resources. You’ve all been doing a damn fine job of running it straight into the ground. So why is it that you, the humans, get to keep control of this one place we all have to live on? Because you can go out into the sun? Well, your species drowns in water. Should that be a qualifying argument over good and bad? Or can we start setting aside a few of these more archaic labels?

You’re not producing anything. You’re just stealing something that already existed. It’s an alteration to something that’s already there. That’s like brainwashing someone and calling them your child because of it. 

There’s no place for your kind here because you kill innocent people for the fun of it. If you were being honest you wouldn’t be skirting around that fact. Sure you need blood to survive, but you don’t need to maliciously torture people to survive. You know that. I’m not fooled by the act you’re putting on. Anyone who is needs to open their eyes and look at the past.

And you were human once too. You’re living in some sort of human made abode right now. You’re on a computer or a cell phone right now. And you’ve probably driven a car as well. With a life as long as yours, you’ve probably caused more harm to this planet than I have. And the thing is, every vampire was once human. And once they die, it doesn’t mean they suddenly stop using all their creature comforts they’ve grown up with and start caring about the environment out of nowhere. With your unnaturally long lives, you’ve gotten an even better chance to wreck the planet than regular old human beings have. 

That argument is just plain stupid. There’s no way around it and you don’t deserve for me to even try to find a nice way to say it either. 

ross-wallace:

Wow, the Slayer has some bite to her.

I won’t rehash some of the same arguments we’ve seen over and over lately about vampires and ‘being good.’ 

But humans are a weaker species, in general. Wouldn’t it do to try and make friends with some of the demonic races? World’s tilting more and more every day. What if demons tried to take the world back again? What hope could you have without more allies?

Dedication to the ‘right’ cause and caring about the ‘innocent’ is a noble gesture. Worthy of praise in the highest degree. I think part of what differs is who we believe is right and innocent.

You aren’t a species. “A species is often defined as a group of organisms capable of interbreeding and producing fertile offspring." Vampires can’t do that. You’re not meant to rule the earth, you’re meant to burn when the sun comes up. Earth is the home of humans, plants, and animals. There are countless other demensions where demons rule and humans are slaves, this is the demension where humans are supposed to be safe. Maybe humans are weaker than vampires are, but I’m not. I wasn’t given this power for no reason, I’m supposed to defend the greater good. I base my actions off of what I see and experience, and I have experienced vampires. You aren’t good. 

ross-wallace:

ghost-of-fashion-victims-past:

ross-wallace:

Just trying to keep a dialogue open, Slayer. But if you want to be done, we can be done.

But why? What could you possibly have to say to me that I would gain anything from? I thought we went over this before. Back when I said I wasn’t going to argue with someone as unreasonable as yourself anymore.

Keeping a conversation going between the two of us, especially so publicly, can be about more than just you and I. We’re shining examples in the media. Through discussion we can hope to help the world.

And it’s unfortunate that you find me unreasonable. I would have thought you could appreciate dedication to a cause.

If that were the case then I would have to admire the entire slew of big bads that I’ve defeated. They were dedicated to their causes just like you are. What I appreciate and admire is dedication to the right cause, to doing the right thing and caring about the innocent. Which is not yours, since you’re dedicated to being able to freely kill the innocent while we all turn our heads the other way. Or worse, look on as though it’s the natural order of things.

ross-wallace:

Just trying to keep a dialogue open, Slayer. But if you want to be done, we can be done.

But why? What could you possibly have to say to me that I would gain anything from? I thought we went over this before. Back when I said I wasn’t going to argue with someone as unreasonable as yourself anymore.